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TO THE HONORABLE THE PILOT BOARD,

SYDNEY

We, the undersigned Ship owners, Merchants, Agents, & c., Masters, of Vessels, hearing that the Pilot Board propose the removal of the present Flag-staff to Nobby's, respectfully beg to represent:

1st. That such removal, instead of a benefit, will be attended with considerable inconvenience and danger to the seafaring community.

2nd. That the removal to Nobby's is too far to leeward when vessels are running for Newcastle, especially when the winds are from the south to west. That this being the only time the signals are at all serviceable, such removal as the one contemplated will be entirely useless for all practical purposes, as light vessels upon making the signals would then be too far to leeward to recover themselves.

3rd. That, should it be deemed necessary and advisable for your Honorable Board to remove the present Signal-staff at all, that it be removed farther to the south than any farther to the north.

Signed by

ANGUS CAMPBELL, Master of "H. M. Warfield"

WILLIAM FIRTH, "Viceroy"

PETER SLATER, "Fayaway"

LAURENCE WILLIAMSON

W. & J DONALDSON, Ship owners

W.T. BOYCE, Agent for Underwriters, Sydney and Melbourne

BINGLE & SON Lloyd's Agents

HENRY S. BLAY Agent

HENRY G. COLE, Master Mariner

EDWARD HILL,  Master and Owner of "Martha Ellen"

ROBT. SIMMONS, Master of Schooner "Athol"

GEO. MITCHELL U.S. Vice-Consul

ALEXR. DUGUID. Master of Schooner "Ariel"

JOHN JOHNSTON, Master of Brig "Janet"

JAMES DONALDSON,  Coal Merchant

GEORGE BERNER, Agent

WM. HENRY. WHYTE. Agent and Ship owner

W.F. WEATHERILL, Master Mariner and Surveyor


 

THE HARBOUR MASTER to MESSRS A. CAMPBELL, AND OTHERS

The Port Office, Sydney

25 September 1858

MESSRS ANGUS CAMPBELL, WILLIAM FIRTH, and the other Petitioners

GENTLEMEN,

In reply to your petition of the 9th instant, respecting the proposed removal of the Flag staff to Nobby's Head, I have the honor, by direction of the Steam Navigation and Pilot Board, to inform you that the board have fully considered the reasons urged against the removal in question; and further, that they have taken the opportunity of examining the masters of vessels who have been before them for certificates of competency upon the subject, and, from the answers given by a considerable number, the Board do not consider that the objections made by the petitioners are valid.

Being thus supported in their own practical opinion, in which I also fully concur, the Board see no reason why they should depart from their original recommendation, that the Flag-staff should be removed to Nobby's Head.

I Have &c., John Crook, Harbour Master


 

 

THE HARBOUR MASTER, SYDNEY to THE HARBOUR MASTER, NEWCASTLE

The Port Office, Sydney 25 September 1858

The Harbour Master, Newcastle

SIR,

I have the honor, by direction of the Steam Navigation and Pilot Board, to request that you will be good enough to proceed forthwith with the removal of the Flag-staff to Nobby's Head

I have &c., John Crook (Sydney)


 

 

Mr. S. Wright to THE SECRETARY FOR LANDS AND PUBLIC WORKS

Chamber of Commerce

Newcastle 29 September 1858

THE HONORABLE THE SECRETARY FOR LANDS AND PUBLIC WORKS, SYDNEY

SIR,

I am instructed by the Newcastle Chamber of Commerce to bring under your notice the intention of the government to remove forthwith the Flag-staff of this port from its present position, and place it upon Nobby's, near the Light House, and to assign its reasons against such removal.

In the first place, - If the Flag-staff be placed upon Nobby's it will be too far to the northward for vessels making for the port from the southward, with a strong and fair wind, for the Masters to see the tide signals in time to stand off, if so required, and in hazy weather, with a heavy swell of the sea on, vessels would get too far to leeward before the signals could possible be seen in time to enable them to clear Point Stephens, and would consequently be placed in great danger of being wrecked, unless the wind at the time should be from the west (going northward till it comes) to south-south-east.

Secondly - The distance of the Nobby's is too far off for the flags to be distinguished with the naked eye, more especially so during the winter months, when the sun is more to the northward then, in the fore part of the day, even with the aid of a telescope, it is attended with much difficulty. It is also a matter of much importance to the inhabitants and traveling community at Newcastle, as well as to the Pilot Establishment, that every facility should be afforded in giving timely notice of the approach of vessels to the port, more especially the steamers.

Thirdly - That should the flag-staff be removed without due notice being given, (at least three months) through the public papers, to masters of vessels coming to this port; the sailing directions would be so changed as to endanger their vessels before such alteration would be discovered, more particularly so with masters of vessels who are strangers to the port. I am there fore requested further to state, that, in the opinion of this chamber, which is supported in its views by masters of vessels who for many years have been well acquainted with the navigation of this port, that instead of removing the Flag-staff more to the northward it ought to be more to the southward where the tide signals could be seen much earlier from vessels approaching the port than at present, as it would then afford ample space to stand off and on without danger, till the proper time of the tide for entering the port space to stand off and on without danger, will the proper time of the tide for entering the port

The Chamber begs to solicit that further inquiry on the part of Government will be made, and the objections herein stated by duly considered, before such contemplated removal of said Flag-staff from its present position be carried out.

I have & C., S. Wright. Hon. Secretary.


P. MACAULIFFE ESQ., to THE STEAM NAVIGATION AND PILOT BOARD

Newcastle 30 September 1858

Steam Navigation and Pilot board,

Port Office, Sydney

GENTLEMEN

Instructed by the Committee appointed here in public meeting in reference to the affairs of this Port, I have the honor to state, that they have been informed that it is the intention of your Board to remove the Signal Station at this port from its present position to Nobby's Peninsula; and that as the Committee has good reason to believe that such removal would prevent the signals from being perceptible to vessels approaching the harbour from the southward, under the important, conditions in which they are now found most useful, until too late to be availed of - I am desired to beg the favour of your causing the removal to be suspended, until the Committee can supply your Board with that further information or evidence which the Committee feel assured it would be your desire to have under the grave circumstances here mentioned

I have & c., P. Macauliffe, Secretary


 

 

P. MACAULIFFE, ESQ., to THE MINISTER FOR FINANCE AND TRADE.

Newcastle 30 September 1858

THE HONORABLE THE MINISTER FOR FINANCE AND TRADE, Sydney

SIR,

Instructed by the Committee appointed here in public meeting in reference to the affairs of this port, I have the honor to state, that they are informed that it is the intention of the Steam Navigation and Pilot Board to remove the Signal Station at this harbour from its present position to Nobby's Peninsula; and that as such removal would seriously impair the utility of the signals to vessels approaching here form the southward with a strong wind (to which they are now of greatest importance), by preventing them from being perceptible until the vessels were too far to leeward, when probably the signals would be intended to indicate that the port could not then be entered, - I am desired to beg that the removal may be suspended, until at least the Committee can furnish the Board with further information or evidence on the subject, to which effect, as in your Department, I am instructed to request the favour of your interference.

I have & c., P. Macauliffe, Secretary.


 

THE SECRETARY TO THE TREASURY to P. MACAULIFFE, ESQ.,

The Treasury, New South Wales, 5 October 1858

P. Macauliffe, Esq., Newcastle

SIR,

I am directed by the Honorable the Treasurer to inform you, that upon the receipt of your letter of the 30th ultimo, upon the subject of the contemplated removal of the Signal Station at Newcastle, it was without delay referred to the Steam Navigation and Pilot Board. Their Report was laid before Mr. Campbell this morning, and returned for further evidence

So soon as the Report in question shall have been completed, you will be again communicated with upon the subject.

I have, & c., Henry Lane

 

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